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TODAY’S INTERVIEW
How to Become a Product-led People Team — Part 1
with DreamTeam’s Founder and Chief Product Officer, Shirley Baumer
Shirley Baumer cut her teeth as the very first product manager at monday.com, joining when the company had ~30 people, helping steer growth into the thousands. During her tenure she led the core work‑management product — at one point managing ~$850M in annual recurring revenue.
Today she’s co‑founding DreamTeam, a “people operating system” designed with AI, zero administration, proactive insights, and customisability built in. Her mission: bring the product mindset to HR, so People teams earn the same strategic respect and influence as product teams.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
Why thinking like a product team transforms the People team’s perceived value
How to spot the red‑flags that show your People team is stuck in admin mode
The step-by-step playbook for running “MVP” experiments
How to build credibility with leadership via outcomes, not busy-ness
The core skills your People team needs to shift from reactive to strategic
Why less can be more: cut initiatives to go deeper
How to break the “HR = admin” narrative for good
My Key Takeaways:
People teams must act like product, not process
Shirley draws a direct parallel: product teams ship features, people teams (traditionally) ship processes (onboarding, performance reviews, compensation). But the difference is cultural. Product teams think of “users”, retention, metrics. People teams can often default to templates, one‑size‑fits, or inherited practices. The shift is thinking of your team’s “users” (employees, managers, leaders) and optimising for retention, adoption, impact.
Start with impact, validate with data, ship incrementally
Shirley gave this example of product management practices in-flight. Rather than designing a perfect performance review system in one shot, begin with the outcomes. What change do you need to see? Then talk to “users” (employees, managers, leadership) to uncover what’s blocking impact. Launch a lightweight MVP (e.g. one question in one team) to test ideas. Use that iteration to build trust, refine, and scale.
Drop low‑impact work and focus deeply to create space for change
When discussing how to make space amongst the plethora of things People teams are responsible for to ‘test’ a product-led approach, Shirley gave this advice. Many People teams feel compelled to launch every “best practice” initiative or run multiple programs simultaneously, going a mile wide but an inch deep. That dilutes impact. Shirley discourages that: “Do one thing less. Drop something”. Prioritise fewer initiatives and do them with rigour, evidence and focus to prove the case incrementally.
Credibility is earned through business language
Leaders speak outcomes, evidence, iteration, ROI. People teams must speak that language. Rather than proposing a “fancy program”, frame your work in terms of business impact (“help each team hit revenue goals,” “reduce churn risk,” etc.). That language already resonates at the leadership level because its how they speak about it. People teams need to align.
Non‑linear resistances lie within People teams, not always from leadership
While execs often seem the obvious barrier, Shirley observes that resistance more frequently emerges from People teams themselves — pressure, overwhelm, habit, fear of change. She counsels scaling the change slowly, reinvesting time into planning, and using early wins to pull people along, not push them.
Core skills you’ll need: interviews, storytelling, iteration
For teams facing this change, Shirley recommends equipping your team in three critical capabilities: user interviews (how to talk with employees and managers meaningfully), data storytelling (analytic rigour + narrative), and iterative release / project management (shipping in small increments, not grand big launches).
“Everything around data storytelling … is often what gets in the way of People team credibility”.
Stay tuned for next weeks edition where we’ll dive into episode 2: moving from theory to practice, and embedding product-led practices into your people team.
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That’s all for from me this week.
Sure, this is technically the end of the newsletter, but we don’t have to end here! I’d love this to be a two-way chat, so let me know what you found helpful, any successes you’re seeing, or any questions you have about startup compensation.
Until next week,

When you’re ready, here’s three ways I can help you:
1. Tools & resources
Resources and tools that give you what you need to build your own startup compensation practices.
2. Comp consulting
I run FNDN, a global comp consultancy that builds compensation practices that are clear, fair and competitive for startups.
3. Startup People Summit
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